What if...I’ve talked a little bit about the company I currently work for, but I wanted to share an interesting scenario with you guys.

The company I work for employs around 50 people.  In the managerial hierarchy, the company president is obviously the big dog.  I (along with a couple other managers) report directly to him.  There is also a vice president of sales, but I don’t directly report to him.

Now, here’s the “what if” scenario…

The president of the company is getting closer to retirement.  He hasn’t come out and said that he plans to retire, but it’s going to be happening and I’m going to guess we’ll see it happen over the next few years.  I would also guess that when it does occur, it will probably be a phased retirement… maybe he starts taking some long weekends, then dropping down to a few days of work a week, and then eventually retiring.  So what happens then?

What will probably take place at that time would be that the current vice president would take over running the company for a while.  He’s also a silent partner in the company.  As a side note, this is the same VP that I talked about previously that I consider a financial mentor.  He’s very savvy… however, he’s no spring chicken.  I would imagine he’ll be completely retiring himself within ten years (about the same time I plan to).

So now they have some options of what they can do with the company – here are a few:

  1. Close the business.  Not going to happen.
  2. Sell the company off to another company.  Although this would possibly be the most profitable for them, I really don’t think they would do this.  They both make excellent money, but I’ve known them long enough to know that they’re not greedy.  And I actually I think they would feel that this would be a shady way to leave.
  3. Make this an employee-owned company.  This is an interesting option.  This would reward the employees and still allow both the owner and VP to possibly continue to own a stake in the company.

If I were a betting man (I am when I’m in Vegas!), I would bet that the employee-owned company will be the direction they will go.  It’s a win-win for everyone involved if carefully executed.

Using an employee stock-ownership plan (ESOP), a trust fund is created and then shares of the company are purchased using that fund.  Employees then receive shares based on whatever structure the employer creates for the ESOP (years with the company, performance, etc.).  When an employee later leaves the company, shares are then purchased back at fair market value.  This gives the employees the opportunity to cash out the stock that they’ve accumulated over time.

The company has some very loyal employees so this would be a great opportunity for the owners to give back.  I would bet the average time with the company is at least 15 years, with some employees even pushing close to 30 years.  A good number of new employees are hired for growth, not as replacements to employees leaving.

Now don’t forget, I actually like my job… I just don’t like working.  I feel like there are better things I could be doing.  The place I work is a solid company (currently about an $11 million company) and one that I enjoy being a part of.  However, I don’t want to be stuck working a day past financial freedom if I can help it.

This “what-if” post is already giving me a headache just thinking about it!

The other what if would be, what if my role changes after their exit from the company?  I could end up picking up more or too much responsibility that I’m not after any longer… or possibly a stronger role in the company.

So now what happens?  What if the way this is structured means I would need to stay there for X number of years in order to reap the rewards?  Could I be “stuck” there past the target retirement date if I want to take advantage of this opportunity (e.g. a minimum number of years to be vested)?

Something big is going to happen in the next few years… and I’m not sure I want to be a part of it. Especially if it keeps me working full-time past my retirement goal.  The hard part is always going to be money.  Yes, I will reach financial freedom before 2025, but owning a piece of the company would probably be a good chunk of change to make the retirement life a little smoother.

Again, this is all just speculation on my part, but what if?  If this does happen, it would definitely be a good problem to have, but still one that would be really tough for the guy with retirement already in his sights.  What would you do if you were in this position?

Thanks for reading!!

— Jim

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  • October 12, 2015 at 8:19 am
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    None of us knows what the future holds, so I definitely wouldn’t turn down an offer to own part of the company. A lot can happen before early retirement, so putting yourself in a position to succeed in your career until the last second is a good call. 🙂

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    • October 12, 2015 at 9:13 am
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      Thanks Our Next Life – like I said, it’s all speculation from me at this point, but it could be an interesting ride. Obviously, I’ll post a new article if/when something does come down the pipeline. The ideal scenario would be if I could be a part of this, but still be able to retire at 50 as planned. Like you said, no one knows what the future holds so we’ll just have to wait and see!

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  • September 14, 2018 at 8:38 am
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    Agreed, the what if game comes with more questions than answers, yet it can also come with options and a course of action for each inevitable change. Have fun the the change, manage and evaluate each new step and adapt. Then again, a plan falls apart at first contact. More colorfully stated, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” – Mike Tyson.
    Answering the if this-then that is very linear, absolute and absolutely limiting. The answer may still be in your statement of liking your job, but not liking work. the hyperlink provided reminding us all of our time to make the donuts need also include the job becomes a passion if you can still enjoy eating donuts and find an altruism in efforts that provide donuts to others. (Apologies, the metaphors are rampant is this comment).
    While your crystal ball is still in the repair shop, war gaming through options is a rational process to endeavor upon – key word, rational. Allow for hybrid possibilities and your ability to adapt. After all, perfect is a nemesis of good enough.

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    • September 15, 2018 at 12:10 pm
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      Haha, love the Tyson quote! So true that there are so many different possibilities that can show up along the way… you just need to keep your eyes and ears open for the opportunities!

      — Jim

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